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  • chanduv23
    09-03 11:06 PM
    All that I'm saying is why do you need to single out one politician. Can you compare YSR with Mr. Modi(Ghodra Express Issue), Mr Advani(Babri Mazdid Issue)...on how many innocent lives have been lost because of their filthy politics...

    And mind you , you and me are working here in US cos of the open policies created by Mr.Late Rajiv Gandhi in the IT Sector. All that I'm saying is someone or something is better than none.

    For that matter do you support War on Iraq , War on Afghanistan when it comes to people lives...
    First know the facts before you comment and have guts to comment revealing your original ID and not with a hidden one....created just for the sake of it

    chill - u r working in US because have skills - got visa applied for Green card. In what way did Rajiv Gandhi help you? So do you say that everyone immigrating to USA from every country is because of Rajiv Gandhi?

    I see that u r arguing just for the sake of arguement. Come on man. expand your thinking capacity - U r responsible for your own life and you do things in life that suits you. Just like how u r a software guru, politics is also a field which has become a "career oriented" field. Now, a lot of people trashed SRK during discussions, I did not understand what his fault was, for such trashing.

    Now, the reason why a lot of people trash YSR is because of his corruptive governance - which crossed all limits.

    If you think that one has to respect someone just because he/she is a leader - that may not be practical





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  • franklin
    02-14 06:51 PM
    Question - where are all the numbers for historical visa allocation coming from?





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  • chanduv23
    02-13 10:39 AM
    You are right chanduv. If ppl are not even participating in letter campaign itself what to expect abt all this lawsuit stuff.

    We must learn from the Jews, Italians, Patels, the african amerifcan comunity, the anti immigrants - what unity can achieve.

    We seldom see them blaming their community efforts - they are strong and America is the apt place for them because they are strong. They built the system for themselves.

    We are always followers - divided - fighting among ourselves - challenging our own credibility.

    I do not want to deviate the intent of this thread. let it continue - but every topic must have a reality check.





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  • amitga
    02-15 08:32 AM
    Very well said & I just feel the same...I have already lost hope on this GC and can not predict how long its going to take but for sure before I leave this place and go back to home country I will contribute my best of share in this fight for justice and full support...count me in with out any doubt!!

    The current situation is a gross voilation of the constitutional right of employment at will. This amounts to Involuntary servitude which is a more techincal term for slavery. Read yourself the definition of both and make your own judgement.

    In my view (though crazy and totaly impractical) the law suit should be against all the employers because they are the one who represent Govt/USCIS in processing our Green cards. Employers told us that we will process your greencard and you will be a PR in x number of years and now that x is infinite.


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/At-will (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/At-will)

    At-will employment is a doctrine of American law that defines an employment relationship in which either party can terminate the relationship with no liability if there was no express contract for a definite term governing the employment relationship. Under this legal doctrine:

    “ any hiring is presumed to be "at will"; that is, the employer is free to discharge individuals "for good cause, or bad cause, or no cause at all," and the employee is equally free to quit, strike, or otherwise cease work.


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Involuntary_servitude :

    Involuntary servitude is a United States legal and constitutional term for a person laboring against that person's will to benefit another, under some form of coercion. While laboring to benefit another occurs in the condition of slavery, involuntary servitude does not necessarily connote the complete lack of freedom experienced in chattel slavery; involuntary servitude may also refer to other forms of unfree labor. Involuntary servitude is not dependent upon compensation or its amount.



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  • Ramba
    02-12 02:25 PM
    Yeah, Tell me about it!!!

    Just two more months and mine would have been current!!!!

    I wish your hopes comes true. However, one thing you should remember. There are many guys with PD before 2005 got stuck due to name check, particularly in ROW catagory. This big jump in PD for ROW and new name check clearance rule, will makes tons of 485s become eligible for approval in March.

    As they mentioned in their comment, they may freeze the PD for ROW in APril or move back to 2004, depending on how many EB3-ROW gets GC in March.





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  • vinzen
    08-18 11:35 PM
    I think you think too much...by the way this is how you communicate in your office. American would think twice even come near to you...Good defence...:D

    hasnt happened yet. if it ever did, I will change my ways...slumdog.



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  • InTheMoment
    09-14 09:16 PM
    It is important to know the numbers of traditional labors filed in year 2005 before PERM was implemented on March 28, 2005. Does anybody have hard numbers on these ?

    This is a very relevant piece of info, as tons were filed because PERM was a new animal and no one wanted to play around with it before they understood it.





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  • hazishak
    02-15 10:52 PM
    America is about freedom and liberty and is a law abiding country. Country caps is discrimination with people of two countries which have almost half of the population in the world. I am not saying increase visas for India or China. I am only saying increase the total number of visas and then make the system FIFO so that every skilled person in this world have same access to immigration.

    There is rules in every where in our daily life isn't there? You cant not sucide even if you want to.



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  • PlainSpeak
    01-13 03:09 PM
    I completely agree with amitjoey and willigetgc.

    Blaming IV on one hand for the lack of enthusiasm and support from EB3 community and on the other hand - for a stand-still in the Congress when it comes to EB specific bills/laws is inappropriate. And then asking IV to drum up a fake EB3 relief measure to encourage this community is a disastrous way to go.

    I recently spoke with one of the admins (reached via contacts page) who gave a very realistic view of how things stand in the Congress and otherwise...and I truly encourage other members to talk to the right folks to get facts rather than getting misled by pure rhetoric. I trust that IV core advocacy wil identify the right bills/legislations to push for and hopefully regional grass-roots members will support those efforts. This Diversity bill might prove to be good practice but we should not have any false hopes. it just gives us another reason to blame IV later on - and IV is the only true platform we have.

    Other than that let me just paste the following I wrote on another thread in response to Plainspeak's approach -
    You do not represent my opinions. So please stop advocating yourself as an EB3 representative. With the points you have raised and the negative vibes you have created between EB2 vs EB3, you have shown that you are concerned and frustrated only about your own personal GC situation and are trying to use the EB3 tag to shove it down my throat. Which I completely detest.
    And to that commnet of mine which you copied from the other post i would asvise people go to that post and see my reply to that





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  • rick_rajvanshi
    03-20 11:27 AM
    You can renew your permanent resident card only if you lived in canada for atleast 2 years in 5 years. And to get the card, you need to get a guarantor signature who knows you for atleast 2 years e.g. a physician, attorney, etc


    If you dont have guarantor - you can use any public notary - not a big deal . they 'll sign your PR Card application for $60 Canadian per application - This is only for people who are already a landed immigrant and do not have a plastic PR Card. You can also keep traveling to Canada without a Plastic PR Card ( for your US visa renewals etc. ) but in your own car only. But the max limit is 3 years from the date you have first landed - You must start maintaining your residence in Canada with in these 3 years before your residency becomes invalid.



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  • logiclife
    06-26 01:17 PM
    Thanks for making me look like an idiot in front of my lawyer and HR, everyone.

    Based on RUMORs, I asked my lawyer this question:

    I have a question about July Visa bulletin. If the August bulletin is retrogressed when announced in mid-July, can the USCIS change rules and stop accepting new Adjustment of status petitions in mid-July ? I know that it sounds illogical and that July bulletin's current dates would apply thru July 31st but I am hearing from my professional colleagues that USCIS could change rules and stop accepting new AOS petitions in middle of the month.

    And I got this reply :

    Yes, what you raise is quite illogical. The visa bulletin controls which AOS can be filed during the calendar month for which it is published, there is no way for USCIS to stop receiving an AOS application received say on July 16th. AOS is not like an H1B filing, where there is a finite # that must be received by a date certain and then allocated.

    See, hear that ? "NO WAY FOR USCIS". Now, I dont know why some lawyers are spreading this nonsense that "BEWARE, USCIS will stop accepting new petitions if they receive 'too many petitions'. What is 'too many ??? Who defines 'too many'? Is 'too many' defined as the time when the mail room clerk gets back pain from lifting boxes of petitions ? Or the guy printing 485 receipt notices gets carpel tunnel syndrome ?

    PLEASE PUT THIS IDEA TO REST. USCIS WILL ACCEPT PETITIONS THRU JULY 31, NO MATTER HOW TIRED THEY ARE AND NO MATTER HOW SICK THEY GET OF SEEING 485 FEDEXes COMING IN DAY AFTER DAY AFTER DAY. GOT IT ????





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  • MYGC2008
    09-17 12:22 PM
    Here is what I want to understand.

    EB2 ROW is CURRENT except INDIA AND CHINA. EB2 ROW will get 28.6% of 140000.
    This means 40040. How they are going to divide these visa between INDIA and CHINA?
    This is NOT SpillOver. I know there is 7% rule, but other countries are always Current.

    And EB1 is CURRENT and considering Bad economy very few cases will be filed under EB1.

    What will happen to those 40040 Visa? If those spillover to EB2 ROW, we may see a large quantity of Visa numbers for EB2.

    Considering 50% of each EB1 and EB2 visas consumed by other than INDIA AND CHINA, still we should get aroud 40040 visas this year.If you furher divide 50% between INDIA and CHINA, both will get 20020, Which might be sufficient to cross 2005.



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  • Legal
    07-24 07:10 PM
    Have some more comments from Atty Ron. Might be interesting to discuss if already not brought up.

    "Some thoughts on India E2 movement over the next two months.
    More and more, I see people posting messages containing the unspoken assumption that since the Indian E2 cutoff date has moved forward, it is likely to move forward further in the coming months. This is a false hope.

    Even with a cutoff date in early 2003, the CIS has sufficient inventory of Indian E2 adjustments on file to use up the remaining inventory of E2 visas for this fiscal year. The reason that the Visa Office advanced the priority date is to move it up to the point where overseas consular posts can take up the slack left by the CIS's inability to close out enough cases and avoid wasting visas this year.

    The CIS inventory of pending cases is massive. If there were no quota at all - if everyone were suddenly "current" - and no new cases were filed after today, it would still take the CIS four to five years to close out all of the pending cases that they already have in their inventory.

    Overseas consular posts maintain inventories of cases as well. When the priority date for a particular case starts to edge forward and it appears that the applicant may become "current' in the not too distant future, the applicant is told to submit all required supporting documents to the post or the NVC. When this is done, the applicant is reported to the Visa Office as being "documentarily qualified." This means that the case is in a position where an immigrant visa can be issued to the applicant as soon as a visa number becomes available.

    The inventory of documentarily qualified cases with current priority dates at a consular post never exceeds that post's ability to process all such cases within sixty days. Consular posts have very high bandwidth processing capabilities. No matter how many cases become current, they are able to process all of them within sixty days.

    The reason that the Indian E2 cutoff date has moved forward is that the Visa Office fears that the CIS will not be able to adjudicate enough adjustment of status applications to exhaust the annual quota. They have advanced the cutoff date in order to make more cases overseas eligible for final processing.

    This means that overseas consular posts have exhausted their inventories of Indian E2 cases with priority dates earlier than 2006 and the Visa Office had to move the cutoff date forward in order to make more cases eligible to be closed out.

    This does not mean that the CIS has closed out all of the pre-2006 cases pending in their inventory. Far from it. When the new fiscal year starts, Indian E2 is likely to retrogress back to late 2002 or early 2003. This is roughly the point reached by the CIS in processing their inventory of pending cases.

    Please understand that this is a temporary phenomenon and due entirely to the difference in the processing capabilities of the CIS and the overseas consular posts.

    I hope this clarifies matters."


    I am curious and have a few questions:

    1. What was Ron Gotcher's prediction (if any) BEFORE the Aug bulletin came out??

    2. In his long post above, he elaborates on one single theme- to avoid wastage of visa numbers, and since there are some CP cases which could be adjudicated faster, USCIS moved the dates. ABSOLUTELY NOTHING NEW HERE, everyone knows this. He is entirely silent on (a) the ACTUAL number of EB visas available for this fiscal year, (b) spillover from unused FB quota

    3. He is entirely silent on vertical spill over policy changing to horizontal spill over policy. Even without spillover, some minimum numbers will be available in October for EB2-I from the new fiscal year's quota.

    4. He is not giving any credible explanation on why the dates will move back to 2002-3 despite declaring there is a massive inventory? What are the numbers he has on this massive inventory? If there is such a massive inventory of pending EB-2 cases, and every one knows this, no one will be speculating like this.





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  • dealsnet
    09-05 02:08 PM
    IV leadership is now degraded to RSS/VHP terrorist mouth piece.
    Chanduv23 IS THE LEADER. So he created some fake ID'S to post these postings.
    Now onwards, IV and its activities on US watchlist. They will google hindu terrorist, and will get these postings and will watch out these guys.
    You are so agitated about the Christian church in AP. You are making hindu temple in USA and you visit often in Flushing,NY Mr. Vermulu.
    GOOD LUCK FOR YOUR GREENCARD.

    They will see your financing of these unlawful outfits.

    May be YSR came to power just to lose his life. Good for him and YSR got what he deserved, even dogs do not get that death, the worst sinners get it.

    Andhra Jyothy Telugu News Paper Online edition published from Andhra Pradesh, India (http://www.andhrajyothy.com/latestmainshow.asp?qry=/2009/sep/5new60)

    That entire family and followers like you are infested with barbaric thoughts. I hope it brings an end to his Son as well.

    Why should one have sympathy on a criminal? Do you have sympathy on Kasab, Saddam, Hitler? Do you know my caste, do you know where in AP I come from?

    Do you know what he did to Kotla Vijay Bhaskar Reddy, P.Janardhan Reddy. This gunda YSR was involved in large scale communal violence in Hyderabad, just to get into power by denigrating then CM Marri Chenna Reddy Reddy (Dec 1990) and was upset when Nedurumalli Janardhan Reddy was made CM. More then 400 innocent people were killed who have nothing do with YSR . Caste, religion are excuses by people like you to support that barbaric YSR.
    Link: Congress and the Hyderabad riots of 1990 : Black Beak blogs on sulekha, General blogs, Black Beak blog from india (http://black-beak.sulekha.com/blog/post/2007/12/congress-and-the-hyderabad-riots-of-1990.htm)

    YSR a mass murderer beyond redemption

    Being a Christian CM, why is he involved in TTD activities?

    Y.S.R used his position to bring Christian institutions into the decision making loop of the TTD. There was a huge surge of churches along the roads leading to the holy shrine and a recent auction of Hindu temple land on Tirumula Hills.
    Link: IntelliBriefs: Tirumala Lands to Church : Intelligence (http://intellibriefs.blogspot.com/2005/07/tirumala-lands-to-church-intelligence.html)

    All posters and readers go through the links to see the facts yourself.

    Few More:
    From TOI: Democracy as mafia warfare - All That Matters - Sunday TOI - NEWS - The Times of India (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/msid-782107.cms)
    From http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/opinions/782107.cms#top0 (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/opinions/782107.cms#top0)



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  • surya.kant
    05-30 09:22 AM
    Mr. Oppenheim stated that, due to the dramatic increase in employment-based filings, visa cutoff dates for FY2010 will be much more limited to ensure that there will be a steady supply of visa numbers available throughout the year. This will lead to earlier cutoff dates and may help prevent visa categories from becoming unavailable.


    This is the key for VB in coming months. The cut-offs will move slowly and that would mean FIFO for approvals.

    Recapturing unused visa is the only way to reduce the gap between visa supply and demand.





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  • jsb
    06-01 09:48 AM
    I think this is a requirement from US government that countries that need a SSA agreement with US needs to have a Social Security system. Asking our SSA and Medicare back is a good strategy which will benefit us one way or other....
    .

    With SSA agreements with other countries, money is not returned to you if/when you leave the US. Contributions you made for similar programs while working in other contries are collectively considered to decide your final benefit at retirement. Having no parallel plan in India it is difficult to have such an arrangment with them.

    Stronger argument would be, why should a guest worker contribute to SSA/Medicare when those programs are for permanent residents/citizens hoping to retire in the US. It should be payable only after getting GC. Of course, in that case, your benefits at retirement would also be lower. Note that your employer also makes an equal contributions to these plans.

    Most of you may already know but let me restate, if you work in the US for 10 yrs, you will get SSA at retirement, no matter if you have GC or not or where you live. There are some exceptions but they don't apply to India/China citizens living in their home countries.



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  • AirWaterandGC
    05-09 09:19 PM
    I do have my CA PR. Waiting for US GC, my CA PR clock is ticking. Once I am more than 3 years past in the CA PR card and if I still dont go to CA, I understand that my CA PR may not be renewed. My question is : Is is possible to at least enter CA for the last (during 5th) year of CA PR ? Also is it possible to re-apply for the CA PR once I am say 4 years done in my CA PR life without entering CA ? Gurus , please shed some light.

    On another note : I would request no one to make offensive remarks about a great country like Canada. It may not have as many opportunities as US has or be a lot more restricitve in providing licensure to some professionals, but please bear in mind that it has provided respect to some of us by making some of us it PR .... which the great US is still to bestow on us. Even when we have not contributed a single cent to CA or its economy while we have earned/contributed millions to the US / its economy.


    Stop the bashing of countries with stupid generalizations like cost of living and bad doctors. This is ridiculous. See my other posts dispelling Canadian misconceptions. That your friends or whoever has had badluck in Canada is probably as much due to their lack of perperation and research before going there coupled with their socialist sense of entitlement.

    And for all you considering going to Canada, it's not rocket science. Look for a job BEFORE you go. Heck, take a vacation and go there if you get some interviews. I don't care if your doctor friend is driving a taxi cab - they should have known that there is a foreign credential issue going on in that country before they pack up their family and go there (and hopefully this will be ironed out - it is a problem and a big debate right now).

    But it's not like there isn't a way to work around it (suck it up and do what you have to do for recertification - yes it's troublesome, but at least your fate is in your own hands, and you're not stuck in retrogression at the mercy of others). And if you think you have more opportunities in the US, why is it that the majority of H1Bs are being sucked up by desi body shops who just turn around and indenture you? Is that considered a wonderful opportunity ( i guess it is)? How many of you can actually work for a non-desi company? Imagine if they didn't exist. Too bad Canada doesn't have the same body shops, eh. Oh the irony.

    It boggles my mind that people take up and leave to a country without actually looking into the job market or thinking everything would be hunky dory. There's something called the internet. Look for Canadian jobs, apply, get feedback, attend job fairs in Canada, tap your networks, etc. If you can't find something, DON'T GO.

    I'm not saying Canada, or any country, is perfect, but a proper approach and understanding before you jump into something will ease the transistion. And please, enough of the ignorant generalizations.

    If I was an employer and knew you had contempt for my country and thought you were owed something, I'd kick your butt out the door.





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  • alterego
    10-07 04:40 PM
    Sachug22,

    I can pretty much guarantee you, if there is no quarterly spillover, your projections for without quarterly spillover are way too optimistic.
    Your with quarterly spillover numbers are probably closer.
    Of course with the USCIS, all rules, logic and common sense goes out the window. Poor State Dept has to read them and their productivity/intentions monthly, and of course we are on the receiving end of their non sense.





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  • kumarc123
    07-25 10:19 AM
    I doubt it whether he knows about the USCIS has changed the spill overs to horizontal fall outs and due to that the number of visas added to EB2 India/China. The horizontal spill over is giving a greatest adventage to EB2 India and making it run to catch up CURRENT. I see in the link http://www.immigration-information.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5456&page=8 , in one post he is predicting " I expect to see substantial worldwide EB3 movement during the next fiscal year." . But its not true because the EB3 world wide wont have many visas as before from now on. The EB3 world wide will move based on the 7% quota but not more than that.

    Well I agree with you and some other members. Most of these lawyers don't know crap what they are talking about. I have my white lawyer, so far the experience has been good with him, but when I asked about the current dates, he was quiet perplexed.

    The fact is , no one has done calculation like we IV members, also in Ron's post nothing was mentioned about horizontal or vertical movement. All the comments made by this lawyer are more on subjective and speculative lines.

    Ron Gotcher is simply doing a guess work here,

    It's reverse psychology, create a little tension among applicants, and the lawyers will get more clients for answers. Believe it or not, IV has affected a lot lawyers business, as now members here are more educated in filling up different forms themselves. Somehow I feel, even a firm like Murthy law looks up to IV for latest updates.





    gimmeacard
    07-21 06:18 PM
    People can loose a lot of money in this "business"... 20K in 4 years is petty... literally.

    Once you achieve some level in this business, your "uplines" start pestering you to do 300PV every month instead of 100PV. Each PV is about $2.50 + tax + Shipping so 300PV = $800 a month. Most of this $800 stuff is at least with 300% markup and many of the things that we didn't need. So even if we take $200 as waste out of $800, in 4 years, I lost $200x12x4 = $9,600

    Now, off course no one puts a gun to your head to buy 300PV but the pressure is nothing less than that. Its very hard to explain just like hard to explain the Niagara Falls experience (this example I have used many times while contacting people).



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    Thanks EbiZash for explaining the details, i hear your pain, i would had jumped off the bridge after i failed in 3 months, no matter how much pressure, i would save my shirt first.

    Its time you start hearing to your wife. i lost a good fortune in stocks too, so i am no avatar here :-)





    snathan
    01-19 02:00 PM
    Check my post . I withdrawn my post after realizing that it was not amusing to others. What else I could have done other then withdrawing my post ? How do you feel I should react when some one has gone personal ? Just giving lip service will not do good either. Where is the plan ? Did I said in my post anywhere that I will create hurdles for any movement for opposing this memo ? Mind it so many rules like AC21 or working for new employer just after transferring H1b never came out of any immigration forum thread. Gold rush of 2007 was result of Aila efforts . It all came after AILA negotiated with USCIS and I am keeping my eyes there. I am checking most sites because am worried too . Unfortunately people are forcing me to praise and sing for my ex employer which I will never do.Venting against my ex and supporting the memo are two different things.Anyway
    I suggest try to establish contacts with AILA. That's the way to go. Unfortunately that's pointer is missing in this forum.

    I am not sure if AILA really did anything for us in 2007. Logically thinking they are just a business and they care about only their income. They do not need to worry about our welfare. So I dont expect AILA would fight for us.



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